Steve Robbins talks with Shelley Specchio about various topics related to the real estate industry, including changes and disruptions, the role of the MLS, the impact of technology, and the challenges faced by the CEO of MIBOR. Shelley shares her experiences in dealing with the real estate industry's fear and resistance to change, including personal death threats, and how, despite the challenges, she remained committed to the vision and the plan for the organization. Steve and Shelley break down the importance of technology in real estate and the need for partners who can keep up with advancements. Shelley emphasizes the value of having control over data and the ability to adapt to changes in the industry. Steve and Shelley also touch on the NAR settlement and the need for leaders to navigate the changes and articulate their value proposition.